Discussion:
Windows Fax and Scan and Outlook contacts
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Drew Edmundson
2009-03-07 18:35:07 UTC
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I can't get Windows Fax and Scan (WFS) to use the contacts from
Outlook 2007. Running Vista Ultimate 64 on an SBS 2003 network. Using
the server's shared fax. This worked when I had Vista Ultimate 32
installed.

Unsuccesful steps I have tried.

I have run a repair install of Office. I have deleted my old profile
and created a new one. Please note that since I am running on SBS 2003
premium I use Exchange 2003 so I don't lose my contacts, e-mails, etc.
when I delete the profile. I have rebooted. I have deleted the fax
account and added it back.

When I click on the address book icon my contacts appear and those
with fax numbers are listed.

What I get for contacts are the one created by Windows Mail for me. I
have never used Windows Mail on this PC.

TIA for your assistance.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-07 20:14:54 UTC
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At the OS level: Make sure you set Outlook for all its capabilities and
Windows Mail for none of its. Reboot.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
I can't get Windows Fax and Scan (WFS) to use the contacts from
Outlook 2007. Running Vista Ultimate 64 on an SBS 2003 network. Using
the server's shared fax. This worked when I had Vista Ultimate 32
installed.
Unsuccesful steps I have tried.
I have run a repair install of Office. I have deleted my old profile
and created a new one. Please note that since I am running on SBS 2003
premium I use Exchange 2003 so I don't lose my contacts, e-mails, etc.
when I delete the profile. I have rebooted. I have deleted the fax
account and added it back.
When I click on the address book icon my contacts appear and those
with fax numbers are listed.
What I get for contacts are the one created by Windows Mail for me. I
have never used Windows Mail on this PC.
TIA for your assistance.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-07 21:59:27 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:14:54 -0500, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
At the OS level: Make sure you set Outlook for all its capabilities and
Windows Mail for none of its. Reboot.
Thank you for the assistance. Outlook has all its defaults. Windows
Mail only has .eml. Unfortunately it is grayed out and I am unable to
change it.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-08 01:06:37 UTC
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Why can't you change it? You must. Otherwise, you may have identified your
problem. You are not running with sufficient privileges.
Spell out the details here, please.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:14:54 -0500, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
At the OS level: Make sure you set Outlook for all its capabilities and
Windows Mail for none of its. Reboot.
Thank you for the assistance. Outlook has all its defaults. Windows
Mail only has .eml. Unfortunately it is grayed out and I am unable to
change it.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-08 02:23:30 UTC
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:06:37 -0500, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Why can't you change it? You must. Otherwise, you may have identified your
problem. You are not running with sufficient privileges.
Spell out the details here, please.
I am running as an Administrator. There does not appear to be a way to
select "run as adminstrator" when changing default programs. When I
click on the .eml protocol nothing happens. The same thing happens
when I try to uncheck the box with the space bar.

If it is any help, Windows Contacts has 4 of 5 defaults. I cannot
uncheck them - .contact, .group, .p7c, and LDAP.

I have taken my laptop home and am unable to send a fax via the server
at this time.

Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-08 03:36:19 UTC
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On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:23:30 -0500, Drew Edmundson
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:06:37 -0500, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Why can't you change it? You must. Otherwise, you may have identified your
problem. You are not running with sufficient privileges.
Spell out the details here, please.
I am running as an Administrator. There does not appear to be a way to
select "run as adminstrator" when changing default programs. When I
click on the .eml protocol nothing happens. The same thing happens
when I try to uncheck the box with the space bar.
If it is any help, Windows Contacts has 4 of 5 defaults. I cannot
uncheck them - .contact, .group, .p7c, and LDAP.
I have taken my laptop home and am unable to send a fax via the server
at this time.
I was able to remove the last protocl from Windows Mail by using
"associate a file type or protocol with a program" then i rebooted.
Still don't get the outlook contacts when i open WFS.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-08 11:15:24 UTC
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Start at the beginning then. Why can't you connect to your fax server?
You seem to have a host of problems here and provide no steps for anyone to
repro.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:06:37 -0500, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Why can't you change it? You must. Otherwise, you may have identified your
problem. You are not running with sufficient privileges.
Spell out the details here, please.
I am running as an Administrator. There does not appear to be a way to
select "run as adminstrator" when changing default programs. When I
click on the .eml protocol nothing happens. The same thing happens
when I try to uncheck the box with the space bar.
If it is any help, Windows Contacts has 4 of 5 defaults. I cannot
uncheck them - .contact, .group, .p7c, and LDAP.
I have taken my laptop home and am unable to send a fax via the server
at this time.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-09 18:47:19 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:15:24 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Start at the beginning then. Why can't you connect to your fax server?
You seem to have a host of problems here and provide no steps for anyone to
repro.
I don't have a host of problems. When I open up WFS and click on the
"To:" button the Windows Mail list of contacts opens. Only I am listed
as a contact in the Windows Mail contacts. I use Outlook 2007 for all
my e-mail and Forte Agent for my newsgroups. I thought that Outlook
contacts would be the default for WFS as it was on my old Vista 32
bit.

I can connect to the fax server and can send faxes via Outlook but
that is not the way I want to fax.

The "problem" with setting the defaults was that I didn't realize that
some defaults have to be set via "associate a file type or protocol
with a program" instead of the "set your default programs" link.

Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-10 21:31:48 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:47:19 -0400, Drew Edmundson
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:15:24 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Start at the beginning then. Why can't you connect to your fax server?
You seem to have a host of problems here and provide no steps for anyone to
repro.
I will try to do as you suggest. I installed Windows Vista 64 bit to
the laptop. Connected to our SBS 2003 server and downloaded all the
Windows updates. Installed MS Office 2007. Added my Exchange account
to Outlook 2007. Now when I try to select contacts from within WFS I
get the Windows Mail contacts not the Outlook contacts.

As a side note, it is impossible to click on the Windows icon in the
task bar and then right click on "Default Programs" and select run as
Administrator. My problem with setting the defaults was I did not
understand that some have to be set via "set program access and
computer defaults" instead of via "set your default programs."

Are you running Vista 64 bit? Is anyone running Vista 64 bit and
getting Outlook contacts in WFS?

TIA,

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-23 20:38:53 UTC
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I'm not running 64 bit, but I've seen no reports of its not being able to
run WFS and connect to Outlook. You appear to have a problem at the OS
level. Windows Mail must be set for none of its defaults and Outlook for all
of its. Normally , simply installing Outlook will accomplish that.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:47:19 -0400, Drew Edmundson
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:15:24 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Start at the beginning then. Why can't you connect to your fax server?
You seem to have a host of problems here and provide no steps for anyone to
repro.
I will try to do as you suggest. I installed Windows Vista 64 bit to
the laptop. Connected to our SBS 2003 server and downloaded all the
Windows updates. Installed MS Office 2007. Added my Exchange account
to Outlook 2007. Now when I try to select contacts from within WFS I
get the Windows Mail contacts not the Outlook contacts.
As a side note, it is impossible to click on the Windows icon in the
task bar and then right click on "Default Programs" and select run as
Administrator. My problem with setting the defaults was I did not
understand that some have to be set via "set program access and
computer defaults" instead of via "set your default programs."
Are you running Vista 64 bit? Is anyone running Vista 64 bit and
getting Outlook contacts in WFS?
TIA,
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-24 01:36:24 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:53 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
I'm not running 64 bit, but I've seen no reports of its not being able to
run WFS and connect to Outlook. You appear to have a problem at the OS
level. Windows Mail must be set for none of its defaults and Outlook for all
of its. Normally , simply installing Outlook will accomplish that.
Windows Mail now has only SNEWS protocol of its defaults and
Outlook has all its defaults. Still no joy. SNEWS protocol
cannot be changed. Before you say this is the problem,
please see if you can change the SNEWS protocol.

From my Google searches all the posts that have specified 32
bit vs. 64 bit that have this problem have all said they
were using Vista 64 bit. On the other hand, how often does
one see someone specify Vista 32 bit? Not often, so my
anecdotal evidence may be wrong.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-24 22:19:00 UTC
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Don't forget that in Vista all of the messaging components that were in
Outlook Express are now separate in Windows Mail. So you need to be looking
at the Contacts component ("Windows Contacts") not the transports component.
Make sure Windows Contacts is not set for any of the defaults that Outlook
can handle.
I have no doubt that this may very well be a 64 bit problem. It's just not
one I've seen documented or reproduced. Usually this problem arises if the
Outlook profile is corrupt or not properly configured for its address book
service. Configuring an Outlook profile most definitely requires a 32 bit
app. Enable 32 bit apps and configure a new Outlook profile from scratch.
Make sure the Outlook Address Book Service is installed and working
correctly in this profile.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:53 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
I'm not running 64 bit, but I've seen no reports of its not being able to
run WFS and connect to Outlook. You appear to have a problem at the OS
level. Windows Mail must be set for none of its defaults and Outlook for all
of its. Normally , simply installing Outlook will accomplish that.
Windows Mail now has only SNEWS protocol of its defaults and
Outlook has all its defaults. Still no joy. SNEWS protocol
cannot be changed. Before you say this is the problem,
please see if you can change the SNEWS protocol.
From my Google searches all the posts that have specified 32
bit vs. 64 bit that have this problem have all said they
were using Vista 64 bit. On the other hand, how often does
one see someone specify Vista 32 bit? Not often, so my
anecdotal evidence may be wrong.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-26 01:00:24 UTC
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:19:00 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Don't forget that in Vista all of the messaging components that were in
Outlook Express are now separate in Windows Mail. So you need to be looking
at the Contacts component ("Windows Contacts") not the transports component.
Make sure Windows Contacts is not set for any of the defaults that Outlook
can handle.
Other than the one protocol, I changed all to Outlook.
Rebooted and the problem still exists. I can't change the
one protocol.
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
I have no doubt that this may very well be a 64 bit problem. It's just not
one I've seen documented or reproduced. Usually this problem arises if the
Outlook profile is corrupt or not properly configured for its address book
service. Configuring an Outlook profile most definitely requires a 32 bit
app. Enable 32 bit apps and configure a new Outlook profile from scratch.
Make sure the Outlook Address Book Service is installed and working
correctly in this profile.
Outlook is able to fully access the address books I have. We
have one address book shared via a public folder on the SBS
2003 server and I have a personal address book. I can access
both completely from within Outlook.

I had already tried that but I tried it again. No luck.

Thanks for your help. I guess there is nothing else to try.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-26 09:37:13 UTC
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Outlook hasn't used a PAB for over a decade. You aren't really using a PAB,
are you?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:19:00 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Don't forget that in Vista all of the messaging components that were in
Outlook Express are now separate in Windows Mail. So you need to be looking
at the Contacts component ("Windows Contacts") not the transports component.
Make sure Windows Contacts is not set for any of the defaults that Outlook
can handle.
Other than the one protocol, I changed all to Outlook.
Rebooted and the problem still exists. I can't change the
one protocol.
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
I have no doubt that this may very well be a 64 bit problem. It's just not
one I've seen documented or reproduced. Usually this problem arises if the
Outlook profile is corrupt or not properly configured for its address book
service. Configuring an Outlook profile most definitely requires a 32 bit
app. Enable 32 bit apps and configure a new Outlook profile from scratch.
Make sure the Outlook Address Book Service is installed and working
correctly in this profile.
Outlook is able to fully access the address books I have. We
have one address book shared via a public folder on the SBS
2003 server and I have a personal address book. I can access
both completely from within Outlook.
I had already tried that but I tried it again. No luck.
Thanks for your help. I guess there is nothing else to try.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-26 18:14:02 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:37:13 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Outlook hasn't used a PAB for over a decade. You aren't really using a PAB,
are you?
No, I apologize. I meant I have two separate contact lists -
1 is in the shared public folder and the other is a contact
list of friends and family. Outlook still calls them
"address books" when I hover over the "book icon" and in the
"search address books" input box so that is what I called
them.

Drew
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-26 20:27:18 UTC
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Well I'll keep looking for exact steps to reproduce the issue and if I can
find them I'll forward them to the developers. Were you ever able to get WFS
to use your Outlook Contacts on 64 bit Vista?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:37:13 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Outlook hasn't used a PAB for over a decade. You aren't really using a PAB,
are you?
No, I apologize. I meant I have two separate contact lists -
1 is in the shared public folder and the other is a contact
list of friends and family. Outlook still calls them
"address books" when I hover over the "book icon" and in the
"search address books" input box so that is what I called
them.
Drew
Drew Edmundson
2009-03-27 13:59:05 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:27:18 -0400, "Russ Valentine
Post by Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
Well I'll keep looking for exact steps to reproduce the issue and if I can
find them I'll forward them to the developers. Were you ever able to get WFS
to use your Outlook Contacts on 64 bit Vista?
No, but Vista 32 WFS worked perfectly with the Outlook
contacts when I had it installed on the same laptop. When I
installed Vista 64 it was a fresh install onto an erased
hard drive (same one the Vista 32 was on, just erased) and
the Outlook data came over from the Exchange server not from
an old PST file.

If it helps, I have Bitlocker turned on but that didn't seem
to effect WFS under Vista 32.

Drew
SjanUK
2009-03-27 19:01:54 UTC
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I am using Vista Ultimate (x64) and using MS Outlook 2003, I was gettin
the problem when right clicking a fax in Windows Fax and Scan (WFS).

I got the solution her
http://vista.maranciuc.com/index.php?topic=12.msg18#msg18 now a ne
e-mail opens with the Fax attached and ready for me to add contacts fro
MS Outlook 2003

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-27 20:35:35 UTC
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That's not a solution at all. That's the very first thing we did, and always
is. It hasn't worked for Drew.
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[MVP-Outlook]
I am using Vista Ultimate (x64) and using MS Outlook 2003, I was getting
the problem when right clicking a fax in Windows Fax and Scan (WFS).
I got the solution here
http://vista.maranciuc.com/index.php?topic=12.msg18#msg18 now a new
e-mail opens with the Fax attached and ready for me to add contacts from
MS Outlook 2003.
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SjanUK
2009-03-27 18:32:02 UTC
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I got an answer to this problem here 'MS Fax & Scan
(http://vista.maranciuc.com/index.php?topic=12.msg18#msg18) afte
searching all over the place for an answer. :

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killerb255
2010-03-04 17:48:29 UTC
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Thread necromancy, but still useful..

I can confirm that the problem only occurs with Vista x64 and Windows
x64 (haven't tried XP x64 or Server 2003 x64 to see if their fax client
are affected yet)

A side-by-side comparison between a Windows 7 x86 virtual machine an
an x64 VM told me this much. Control Panel -> Default Programs unde
Microsoft Outlook and Windows Contacts were identical.

Regardless, Win7 x86 has no problems using Outlook Address Boo
Contacts for WF&S, but x64 does.

This also happens when using the Outlook 2010 x64 beta with Win
x64--WF&S still can't pull Outlook Contacts

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killerb255
DL
2010-03-04 19:59:36 UTC
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Somewhat odd since Outlook contacts are in the same file in either version
of win.
Thread necromancy, but still useful...
I can confirm that the problem only occurs with Vista x64 and Windows 7
x64 (haven't tried XP x64 or Server 2003 x64 to see if their fax clients
are affected yet).
A side-by-side comparison between a Windows 7 x86 virtual machine and
an x64 VM told me this much. Control Panel -> Default Programs under
Microsoft Outlook and Windows Contacts were identical.
Regardless, Win7 x86 has no problems using Outlook Address Book
Contacts for WF&S, but x64 does.
This also happens when using the Outlook 2010 x64 beta with Win7
x64--WF&S still can't pull Outlook Contacts.
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killerb255
Russ Valentine
2010-03-04 21:42:44 UTC
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Are you certain the Outlook Address Book Service was configured correctly on
the x64 machines? Since that requires the 32 bit Mail applet, it may not
have been.
You didn't quote the beginning of the thread so your post is a bit hard to
follow.
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Russ Valentine
Thread necromancy, but still useful...
I can confirm that the problem only occurs with Vista x64 and Windows 7
x64 (haven't tried XP x64 or Server 2003 x64 to see if their fax clients
are affected yet).
A side-by-side comparison between a Windows 7 x86 virtual machine and
an x64 VM told me this much. Control Panel -> Default Programs under
Microsoft Outlook and Windows Contacts were identical.
Regardless, Win7 x86 has no problems using Outlook Address Book
Contacts for WF&S, but x64 does.
This also happens when using the Outlook 2010 x64 beta with Win7
x64--WF&S still can't pull Outlook Contacts.
--
killerb255
killerb255
2010-03-17 20:19:55 UTC
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Positive.

I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.

I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.

So, to review:

XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.

The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
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killerb255
Russ Valentine
2010-03-17 21:12:56 UTC
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Since you still haven't quoted the thread so we know what the actual problem
is, I'm not going to spend any time on this.
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Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
Positive.
I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.
I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.
XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.
The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
--
killerb255
killerb255
2010-05-12 16:08:01 UTC
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I apologize...I posted my reply to the original thread in another forum,
which, of course, is crossposted all over the place.

The best way to describe the problem is here:

http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2010/03/18/64bit-client-quot-fax-and-scan-quot-with-outlook-2007-contacts.aspx

...and here:

http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/partnerwinclient7rc/thread/10ef1e6a-cbfe-407c-a5e1-487e0c4405be
Post by Russ Valentine
Since you still haven't quoted the thread so we know what the actual problem
is, I'm not going to spend any time on this.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
Positive.
I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.
I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.
XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.
The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
--
killerb255
.
Russ Valentine
2010-05-12 20:24:54 UTC
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Ah. I see.
Yes. I can confirm that the problem will never be fixed. Outlook stopped
supporting integration with the fax module after Outlook 2003.
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Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
I apologize...I posted my reply to the original thread in another forum,
which, of course, is crossposted all over the place.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2010/03/18/64bit-client-quot-fax-and-scan-quot-with-outlook-2007-contacts.aspx
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/partnerwinclient7rc/thread/10ef1e6a-cbfe-407c-a5e1-487e0c4405be
Post by Russ Valentine
Since you still haven't quoted the thread so we know what the actual problem
is, I'm not going to spend any time on this.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
Positive.
I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.
I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.
XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.
The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
--
killerb255
.
killerb255
2010-05-18 19:04:04 UTC
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If that's the official word, then it looks like we will probably have to
nudge our clients toward using Fax Mail Transport within Outlook itself if
they want Outlook Address Book integration in x64 (and not use Outlook 2010
x64, as it doesn't have Fax Mail Transport yet).

So, in a nutshell, the following fax options are available on the following
operating systems:

Legend:
1: Native NT5 fax client with Windows Address Book
2: Native NT5 fax client with Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010 Address Book (if
Outlook is installed)
3: Windows Fax and Scan with Windows Contacts
4: Windows Fax and Scan with Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010 Address Book (if
Outlook is installed)
5: Fax Mail Transport (Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010)

Operating Systems: Fax Options Available

Windows XP Home, Professional, Media Center, Tablet PC x86: Options 1, 2,
and 5 above
Windows XP x64: Options 1 and 5
Windows Vista Home Basic and Home Premium x86 and x64: Option 5 only
Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, Ultimate x86: Options 3, 4, and 5
Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, Ultimate x64: Options 3 and 5
Windows 7 Starter and Home Premium x86 and x64: Option 5 only
Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate x86: Options 3, 4, and 5
Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate x64: Options 3 and 5

Is that about right?
Post by Russ Valentine
Ah. I see.
Yes. I can confirm that the problem will never be fixed. Outlook stopped
supporting integration with the fax module after Outlook 2003.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
I apologize...I posted my reply to the original thread in another forum,
which, of course, is crossposted all over the place.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2010/03/18/64bit-client-quot-fax-and-scan-quot-with-outlook-2007-contacts.aspx
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/partnerwinclient7rc/thread/10ef1e6a-cbfe-407c-a5e1-487e0c4405be
Post by Russ Valentine
Since you still haven't quoted the thread so we know what the actual problem
is, I'm not going to spend any time on this.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
Positive.
I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.
I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.
XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.
The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
--
killerb255
.
.
Russ Valentine
2010-05-18 20:28:20 UTC
Permalink
Looks right to me. As a rule, the Fax Module will use whatever address book
service the user has selected as the default for the operating system.
Microsoft stopped any development of fax integration with Outlook 2003 and
no longer support it. Users still have the ability to add the Fax Mail
Transport on their own to Outlook if they want. It was easier to leave the
code that permits doing so than to remove it from versions after 2003.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
If that's the official word, then it looks like we will probably have to
nudge our clients toward using Fax Mail Transport within Outlook itself if
they want Outlook Address Book integration in x64 (and not use Outlook 2010
x64, as it doesn't have Fax Mail Transport yet).
So, in a nutshell, the following fax options are available on the following
1: Native NT5 fax client with Windows Address Book
2: Native NT5 fax client with Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010 Address Book (if
Outlook is installed)
3: Windows Fax and Scan with Windows Contacts
4: Windows Fax and Scan with Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010 Address Book (if
Outlook is installed)
5: Fax Mail Transport (Outlook 2003, 2007, x86 2010)
Operating Systems: Fax Options Available
Windows XP Home, Professional, Media Center, Tablet PC x86: Options 1, 2,
and 5 above
Windows XP x64: Options 1 and 5
Windows Vista Home Basic and Home Premium x86 and x64: Option 5 only
Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, Ultimate x86: Options 3, 4, and 5
Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, Ultimate x64: Options 3 and 5
Windows 7 Starter and Home Premium x86 and x64: Option 5 only
Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate x86: Options 3, 4, and 5
Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, Ultimate x64: Options 3 and 5
Is that about right?
Post by Russ Valentine
Ah. I see.
Yes. I can confirm that the problem will never be fixed. Outlook stopped
supporting integration with the fax module after Outlook 2003.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
I apologize...I posted my reply to the original thread in another forum,
which, of course, is crossposted all over the place.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2010/03/18/64bit-client-quot-fax-and-scan-quot-with-outlook-2007-contacts.aspx
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/partnerwinclient7rc/thread/10ef1e6a-cbfe-407c-a5e1-487e0c4405be
Post by Russ Valentine
Since you still haven't quoted the thread so we know what the actual problem
is, I'm not going to spend any time on this.
--
Russ Valentine
Post by killerb255
Positive.
I've also confirmed that this problem even predates Vista and Outlook
2007.
I just installed a Windows XP x64 VM and Outlook 2003. I tried to use
XP x64's fax client to our SBS 2008 Fax server. I can't pull up Outlook
Address Book contacts in XP x64 either.
XP x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
XP x64 and Outlook 2003 = no dice (haven't tried 2007 in XP x64 yet, but
I don't think that'll tell us anything relevant).
Vista x86 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = works.
Vista x64 and Outlook 2003, 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x86 and Outlook 2007 = works.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2007 = no.
Windows 7 x64 and Outlook 2010 x64 = no.
The bottom line is that there is a problem with the Outlook Address Book
communicating with the x64 fax client in NT5 AND Windows Fax & Scan in
NT6!!! Since Outlook 2010 has this problem as well, I think it's more
of a problem with Outlook in general than processor architecture.
--
killerb255
.
.
SjanUK
2009-03-27 18:45:36 UTC
Permalink
I am running Vista 64 bit and was getting Outlook contacts in WFS

I got an answer to this problem her
'http://vista.maranciuc.com/index.php?topic=12.msg18#msg18
(http://vista.maranciuc.com/index.php?topic=12.msg18#msg18) afte
searching all over the place for an answer. :

--
SjanU
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.co
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
2009-03-07 21:18:15 UTC
Permalink
Also, could you check and make sure your WFS client is able to connect to
and send through your server's fax printer?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Post by Drew Edmundson
I can't get Windows Fax and Scan (WFS) to use the contacts from
Outlook 2007. Running Vista Ultimate 64 on an SBS 2003 network. Using
the server's shared fax. This worked when I had Vista Ultimate 32
installed.
Unsuccesful steps I have tried.
I have run a repair install of Office. I have deleted my old profile
and created a new one. Please note that since I am running on SBS 2003
premium I use Exchange 2003 so I don't lose my contacts, e-mails, etc.
when I delete the profile. I have rebooted. I have deleted the fax
account and added it back.
When I click on the address book icon my contacts appear and those
with fax numbers are listed.
What I get for contacts are the one created by Windows Mail for me. I
have never used Windows Mail on this PC.
TIA for your assistance.
Drew
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